How Much Boss Dmg Is Att
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% Damage and % Att??
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What are the differences between % Damage and % Att? Which one is better to have?
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- In Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
- Reactions: 1,555Member, Private TesterIn Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
Why is that? - In Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
Why is that?
I think because %attack goes into your range..while %Damage is like..also into your range but only to a certain extent..I know in Reboto its cuz of the passive which gives you 100% damage by default.. - Depends on your class, but overall Att % will always be better. Skills that use % of your damage like shadow partner seem to gain benefit of the dmg % but att% will still be better regardless. bonus dmg/ dmg % also hits a diminishing return cap, % att and final dmg will be superior.
different formula to put it simpler
att is multiplicative
dmg is additive - Reactions: 1,555Member, Private TesterIn Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
Why is that?
I think because %attack goes into your range..while %Damage is like..also into your range but only to a certain extent..I know in Reboto its cuz of the passive which gives you 100% damage by default..
Oo ok I seeDepends on your class, but overall Att % will always be better. Skills that use % of your damage like shadow partner seem to gain benefit of the dmg % but att% will still be better regardless. bonus dmg/ dmg % also hits a diminishing return cap, % att and final dmg will be superior.
different formula to put it simpler
att is multiplicative
dmg is additive
So does that mean kanna and demon avengar link skill are bad?? - In Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
Why is that?
I think because %attack goes into your range..while %Damage is like..also into your range but only to a certain extent..I know in Reboto its cuz of the passive which gives you 100% damage by default..
Oo ok I seeDepends on your class, but overall Att % will always be better. Skills that use % of your damage like shadow partner seem to gain benefit of the dmg % but att% will still be better regardless. bonus dmg/ dmg % also hits a diminishing return cap, % att and final dmg will be superior.
different formula to put it simpler
att is multiplicative
dmg is additive
So does that mean kanna and demon avengar link skill are bad??
Not if you have % att on your potentials - Reactions: 1,555Member, Private TesterIn Reboot..%ATT is vastly superior to %Damage..I think %Damage is just overall bad though..It doesn't provide much benefit.
Why is that?
I think because %attack goes into your range..while %Damage is like..also into your range but only to a certain extent..I know in Reboto its cuz of the passive which gives you 100% damage by default..
Oo ok I seeDepends on your class, but overall Att % will always be better. Skills that use % of your damage like shadow partner seem to gain benefit of the dmg % but att% will still be better regardless. bonus dmg/ dmg % also hits a diminishing return cap, % att and final dmg will be superior.
different formula to put it simpler
att is multiplicative
dmg is additive
So does that mean kanna and demon avengar link skill are bad??
Not if you have % att on your potentials
But those links are % damage - the links are a bit different because they show up in your range. % total damage/damage from potential doesnt. % att still works with the numbers off the link skills but it also works with all the % att/ att stats in your equips. % damage is added after the final result of the formula.
If I'm correct the kanna and DA links are a flat boost. They add 25% of your total range, to your range. - Reactions: 1,555Member, Private Testerthe links are a bit different because they show up in your range. % total damage/damage from potential doesnt. % att still works with the numbers off the link skills but it also works with all the % att/ att stats in your equips. % damage is added after the final result of the formula.
If I'm correct the kanna and DA links are a flat boost. They add 25% of your total range, to your range.
Oh ok, I guess it should be named % att but its called % damage in description of the link ty! - the links are a bit different because they show up in your range. % total damage/damage from potential doesnt. % att still works with the numbers off the link skills but it also works with all the % att/ att stats in your equips. % damage is added after the final result of the formula.
If I'm correct the kanna and DA links are a flat boost. They add 25% of your total range, to your range.
Oh ok, I guess it should be named % att but its called % damage in description of the link ty!
it's named properly, if it were % att it'd multiply your total range by 25%, but since it just adds 25% of your range into your range, it's proper. - Reactions: 1,560Member, Private TesterThey're both additive on top of themselves and multiplicative with each other. Without any of either, adding say, 12% attack is the about the same as adding 12% damage, though % damage is applied after % attack, and % attack is applied to your attack and rounded down, so % attack could be slightly worse.
The reason % att is better is because it's much rarer. Many skills give a character % damage, including many passives, buffs, link skills, and all the Reinforce hyper skills for attack, which just give % damage for that particular skill. You're less likely to have as large amounts of % attack as % damage, so the boost from adding % attack is much greater than adding the same amount of % damage (since potentials for both are generally the same value).
Additionally, % boss damage is the same as % damage, except that it only works on bosses, so they're additive together as well, so if you have quite a lot of boss damage, which is very possible considering boss damage potentials and set effects usually comes in 20%, 30%, 35%, and 40% flavors, on bosses, the impact a measly 12% or 13% damage at best would add is very small.
So the two biggest factors at play are the scarcity of % attack sources vs % damage sources, plus the large quantities of % boss damage available, which stack additively on top of % damage. - Reactions: 1,555Member, Private Testerthe links are a bit different because they show up in your range. % total damage/damage from potential doesnt. % att still works with the numbers off the link skills but it also works with all the % att/ att stats in your equips. % damage is added after the final result of the formula.
If I'm correct the kanna and DA links are a flat boost. They add 25% of your total range, to your range.
Oh ok, I guess it should be named % att but its called % damage in description of the link ty!
it's named properly, if it were % att it'd multiply your total range by 25%, but since it just adds 25% of your range into your range, it's proper.
what??, i'm confused again lol so % damage link skill is still better than % damage right?They're both additive on top of themselves and multiplicative with each other. Without any of either, adding say, 12% attack is the about the same as adding 12% damage, though % damage is applied after % attack, and % attack is applied to your attack and rounded down, so % attack could be slightly worse.
The reason % att is better is because it's much rarer. Many skills give a character % damage, including many passives, buffs, link skills, and all the Reinforce hyper skills for attack, which just give % damage for that particular skill. You're less likely to have as large amounts of % attack as % damage, so the boost from adding % attack is much greater than adding the same amount of % damage (since potentials for both are generally the same value).
Additionally, % boss damage is the same as % damage, except that it only works on bosses, so they're additive together as well, so if you have quite a lot of boss damage, which is very possible considering boss damage potentials and set effects usually comes in 20%, 30%, 35%, and 40% flavors, on bosses, the impact a measly 12% or 13% damage at best would add is very small.
So the two biggest factors at play are the scarcity of % attack sources vs % damage sources, plus the large quantities of % boss damage available, which stack additively on top of % damage.
Ok I see, I will aim for % att then - Yes, % damage link skills are better than the % damage potentials
% damage potentials only affects your damage per lines, link skills affect your base range, overall att is best choice - Reactions: 1,555Member, Private TesterYes, % damage link skills are better than the % damage potentials
% damage potentials only affects your damage per lines, link skills affect your base range, overall att is best choice
Ok got it, ty - Part of the damage formula is as follow .. * [attack * (1 + %attack) / 100] * [1 + %damage + %boss damage] * ..
%damage on weapon/secondary weapon/emblem is bad because it is additive with %boss damage, and %boss damage potential come in 20/30/35/40% potential while %damage only come in 3/6/9/12% potential.
%attack is better than %damage because majority of the skills and hyper add %damage, so %damage is already suffering from diminishing return, especially on Reboot where their beginner passive give a truckload of %damage.
%damage from link skill does the same thing as %damage from weapon/secondary/emblem potential.Yes, % damage link skills are better than the % damage potentials
% damage potentials only affects your damage per lines, link skills affect your base range, overall att is best choice - Part of the damage formula is as follow .. * [attack * (1 + %attack) / 100] * [1 + %damage + %boss damage] * ..
%damage on weapon/secondary weapon/emblem is bad because it is additive with %boss damage, and %boss damage potential come in 20/30/35/40% potential while %damage only come in 3/6/9/12% potential.
%attack is better than %damage because majority of the skills and hyper add %damage, so %damage is already suffering from diminishing return, especially on Reboot where their beginner passive give a truckload of %damage.
%damage from link skill does the same thing as %damage from weapon/secondary/emblem potential.Yes, % damage link skills are better than the % damage potentials
% damage potentials only affects your damage per lines, link skills affect your base range, overall att is best choice
No, it's no bad, just because you play reboot doesn't mean %boss is useless, there's still a formula, and unless you are a person who likes to train all the time, %boss will be better at some point, only focusing in %attack won't make you that strong, you still need some %boss.
Remember that %attack is good, but for someone who doesn't have much ATTACK it won't increase as much damage as %boss, or like this guy in the video who have a lot of %attack so it's better to have boss lines : he have so much %attack that %boss is actually more viable in terms of damag, so he have that much.
Also link skills are really usefull cause they don't occupy the potential lines, they might be %dmg, but they still are very usefull and strong. - the links are a bit different because they show up in your range. % total damage/damage from potential doesnt. % att still works with the numbers off the link skills but it also works with all the % att/ att stats in your equips. % damage is added after the final result of the formula.
If I'm correct the kanna and DA links are a flat boost. They add 25% of your total range, to your range.
so then unless u have potential? those two things are a waste to have entirely correct? i mean why is there atk% and dam%? why cant it just be one thing to do for skills, passives, linkskills, ect? and benefits the range ? seems like a broken system now. ._. because i still dont know which is better to get for higher damage and good range? in potential that is. - https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/45g9b0/attack_vs_damage/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/3x7pn4/whats_the_difference_between_att_and_damage_on/
You misunderstood, I never said %boss damage was bad or imply it was useless, going for %damage on weapon/secondary/emblem potential is a waste when you can get %boss damage which is 2/3x more efficient to dps than %damage.No, it's no bad, just because you play reboot doesn't mean %boss is useless, there's still a formula, and unless you are a person who likes to train all the time, %boss will be better at some point, only focusing in %attack won't make you that strong, you still need some %boss.
Demon Avenger and Kanna link skill are the best link skill to have because %att link skill doesn't exist.so then unless u have potential? those two things are a waste to have entirely correct?
Introduction
So I constantly see people asking this question, 'Which is better, %boss or %att?' or 'How much %boss should I have?' People always just blindly say that you should go for around 250% boss, and this annoys me because they're just repeating this number that they've heard without any idea of what the real answer should be. The real answer is that it varies from person to person. The amount of boss you should have is actually often more than 250-300% (for more funded players at least), so people should really just stop saying that. Of course it's sometimes nice to have some more %att so your range is higher, but if you really want to hit as high of lines as possible, you should find the correct balance between the two.How to Use It
It's pretty simple to use. Your range and PDR don't matter whatsoever for this calculation so don't worry about them. If you're a mage, just put your %m.att values in the %att spot; they're the exact same thing basically.The calculation page itself shows what to do but I'll repeat it here anyways. For the values of %boss, %TD, and %att, just input them as they are, not as a decimal (275% boss = 275, 35% att = 35, and so on). For what value of %boss to input, that's very easy. Just pull up your stats screen in game, read off that value of %boss, and input it in the page. For %att, check your weapon, 2ndary, and emblem for how much they give and add it to whatever your skills give (if any), and if you have a Henesys Ruins codex set (3% att) on, don't forget about that. For %Total Damage, check the same things as you did for %att. Don't forget about kanna and DA links (10% TD each).
To see whether %boss or %att is better with your current stats, the easiest way would be to use the 'How much %att x amount of %boss is' box. Input what you have, and then I would advise you to put 70 in for the new %boss line amount. This is because 70% boss corresponds to 21% att in its difficulty to get; they're the highest added with the second highest line you can get on a legendary item of that specific stat. If you do this and a value higher than 21% att comes out, then %boss is better than %att with your current stats, and if a value lower than 21% att comes out, %att is better than %boss. You can also do this the opposite way by using the 'How much %boss x amount of %att is' box and putting 21% att in (greater than 70% boss means %att is better, less than 70% means %boss is better). For the best damage increases, you want 70% boss to be equal to exactly 21% att. This is a very useful tool if you're trying to maximize your damage; it'll tell you what you need to shoot for on your potentials.
If you want to see whether %TD or %att is better, just input the new %TD line you want to test in the new %boss line box. %Boss and %TD are additive and can be used interchangeably when dealing with bosses, so this will be able to show which is better, at least pertaining to bossing.